diff --git a/salt/elasticfleet/enabled.sls b/salt/elasticfleet/enabled.sls
index cef47168f..ec8c8337e 100644
--- a/salt/elasticfleet/enabled.sls
+++ b/salt/elasticfleet/enabled.sls
@@ -32,6 +32,16 @@ so-elastic-fleet-auto-configure-logstash-outputs:
     - retry:
         attempts: 4
         interval: 30
+
+{# Separate from above in order to catch elasticfleet-logstash.crt changes and force update to fleet output policy #}
+so-elastic-fleet-auto-configure-logstash-outputs-force:
+  cmd.run:
+    - name: /usr/sbin/so-elastic-fleet-outputs-update --force --certs
+    - retry:
+        attempts: 4
+        interval: 30
+    - onchanges:
+        - x509: etc_elasticfleet_logstash_crt
 {% endif %}
 
 # If enabled, automatically update Fleet Server URLs & ES Connection
diff --git a/salt/elasticfleet/tools/sbin_jinja/so-elastic-fleet-outputs-update b/salt/elasticfleet/tools/sbin_jinja/so-elastic-fleet-outputs-update
index 9efe8a19d..4fa68298c 100644
--- a/salt/elasticfleet/tools/sbin_jinja/so-elastic-fleet-outputs-update
+++ b/salt/elasticfleet/tools/sbin_jinja/so-elastic-fleet-outputs-update
@@ -8,6 +8,27 @@
 
 . /usr/sbin/so-common
 
+FORCE_UPDATE=false
+UPDATE_CERTS=false
+
+while [[ $# -gt 0 ]]; do
+  case $1 in
+    -f|--force)
+      FORCE_UPDATE=true
+      shift
+      ;;
+    -c| --certs)
+      UPDATE_CERTS=true
+      shift
+      ;;
+    *)
+      echo "Unknown option $1"
+      echo "Usage: $0 [-f|--force] [-c|--certs]"
+      exit 1
+      ;;
+  esac
+done
+
 # Only run on Managers
 if ! is_manager_node; then
     printf "Not a Manager Node... Exiting"
@@ -17,17 +38,42 @@ fi
 function update_logstash_outputs() {
     if logstash_policy=$(curl -K /opt/so/conf/elasticsearch/curl.config -L "http://localhost:5601/api/fleet/outputs/so-manager_logstash" --retry 3 --retry-delay 10 --fail 2>/dev/null); then
         SSL_CONFIG=$(echo "$logstash_policy" | jq -r '.item.ssl')
+        LOGSTASHKEY=$(openssl rsa -in  /etc/pki/elasticfleet-logstash.key)
+        LOGSTASHCRT=$(openssl x509 -in /etc/pki/elasticfleet-logstash.crt)
+        LOGSTASHCA=$(openssl x509 -in  /etc/pki/tls/certs/intca.crt)
         if SECRETS=$(echo "$logstash_policy" | jq -er '.item.secrets' 2>/dev/null); then
-            JSON_STRING=$(jq -n \
-                --arg UPDATEDLIST "$NEW_LIST_JSON" \
-                --argjson SECRETS "$SECRETS" \
-                --argjson SSL_CONFIG "$SSL_CONFIG" \
-                '{"name":"grid-logstash","type":"logstash","hosts": $UPDATEDLIST,"is_default":true,"is_default_monitoring":true,"config_yaml":"","ssl": $SSL_CONFIG,"secrets": $SECRETS}')
+            if [[ "$UPDATE_CERTS" != "true"  ]]; then
+                # Reuse existing secret
+                JSON_STRING=$(jq -n \
+                    --arg UPDATEDLIST "$NEW_LIST_JSON" \
+                    --argjson SECRETS "$SECRETS" \
+                    --argjson SSL_CONFIG "$SSL_CONFIG" \
+                    '{"name":"grid-logstash","type":"logstash","hosts": $UPDATEDLIST,"is_default":true,"is_default_monitoring":true,"config_yaml":"","ssl": $SSL_CONFIG,"secrets": $SECRETS}')
+            else
+                # Update certs, creating new secret
+                JSON_STRING=$(jq -n \
+                    --arg UPDATEDLIST "$NEW_LIST_JSON" \
+                    --arg LOGSTASHKEY "$LOGSTASHKEY" \
+                    --arg LOGSTASHCRT "$LOGSTASHCRT" \
+                    --arg LOGSTASHCA "$LOGSTASHCA" \
+                    '{"name":"grid-logstash","type":"logstash","hosts": $UPDATEDLIST,"is_default":true,"is_default_monitoring":true,"config_yaml":"","ssl": {"certificate": $LOGSTASHCRT,"certificate_authorities":[ $LOGSTASHCA ]},"secrets": {"ssl":{"key": $LOGSTASHKEY }}}')
+            fi
         else
-            JSON_STRING=$(jq -n \
-                --arg UPDATEDLIST "$NEW_LIST_JSON" \
-                --argjson SSL_CONFIG "$SSL_CONFIG" \
-                '{"name":"grid-logstash","type":"logstash","hosts": $UPDATEDLIST,"is_default":true,"is_default_monitoring":true,"config_yaml":"","ssl": $SSL_CONFIG}')
+            if [[ "$UPDATE_CERTS" != "true" ]]; then
+                # Reuse existing ssl config
+                JSON_STRING=$(jq -n \
+                    --arg UPDATEDLIST "$NEW_LIST_JSON" \
+                    --argjson SSL_CONFIG "$SSL_CONFIG" \
+                    '{"name":"grid-logstash","type":"logstash","hosts": $UPDATEDLIST,"is_default":true,"is_default_monitoring":true,"config_yaml":"","ssl": $SSL_CONFIG}')
+            else
+                # Update ssl config
+                JSON_STRING=$(jq -n \
+                    --arg UPDATEDLIST "$NEW_LIST_JSON" \
+                    --arg LOGSTASHKEY "$LOGSTASHKEY" \
+                    --arg LOGSTASHCRT "$LOGSTASHCRT" \
+                    --arg LOGSTASHCA "$LOGSTASHCA" \
+                    '{"name":"grid-logstash","type":"logstash","hosts": $UPDATEDLIST,"is_default":true,"is_default_monitoring":true,"config_yaml":"","ssl": {"certificate": $LOGSTASHCRT,"key": $LOGSTASHKEY,"certificate_authorities":[ $LOGSTASHCA ]}}')
+            fi
         fi
     fi
 
@@ -151,7 +197,7 @@ NEW_LIST_JSON=$(jq --compact-output --null-input '$ARGS.positional' --args -- "$
 NEW_HASH=$(sha1sum <<< "$NEW_LIST_JSON" | awk '{print $1}')
 
 # Compare the current & new list of outputs - if different, update the Logstash outputs
-if [ "$NEW_HASH" = "$CURRENT_HASH" ]; then
+if [[ "$NEW_HASH" = "$CURRENT_HASH" ]] && [[ "$FORCE_UPDATE" != "true" ]]; then
     printf "\nHashes match - no update needed.\n"
     printf "Current List: $CURRENT_LIST\nNew List: $NEW_LIST_JSON\n"
 
diff --git a/salt/zeek/files/config.zeek.ja4 b/salt/zeek/files/config.zeek.ja4
index e3dd08a48..3d0035481 100644
--- a/salt/zeek/files/config.zeek.ja4
+++ b/salt/zeek/files/config.zeek.ja4
@@ -11,6 +11,8 @@ export {
   option JA4S_enabled:   bool = F;
   option JA4S_raw:   bool = F;
 
+  option JA4D_enabled:  bool = F;
+
   option JA4H_enabled:   bool = F;
   option JA4H_raw:   bool = F;